Is John Gruber ever non-biased in his pieces about Apple? Given his history with the company, I feel like with Gruber we never ever get the real deal. Every article on every Apple product announcement starts out feeling well-intentioned and non-objective, but then always seems to segue into a subtle praise piece. I am not hating on him, he still makes some great points and he puts considerable amounts of effort into analysis pieces. I just feel like with Gruber we would never see an article honestly telling us something Apple have released is bad.
> Also, though it sounds trivial, I enjoy the perfect 60 FPS smoothness of Apple Watch’s second hand — a smoothness no mechanical watch could ever match.
Based on a culmination of reviews and early preview articles I have read, videos and basically everything I have read about the Apple Watch this statement seems kind of ironic. The second hand might be smooth, but the very real performance issues people have encountered with the watch mean the rest of the Apple Watch experience is anything but smooth. What's the point of a smooth second hand if the rest of the experience is somewhat crippled and unusable?
I like the look of the Apple Watch and the very idea of it, but to an extent. It feels as though articles like Gruber's here are talking with reckless abandon, from the perspective that existing solutions aren't out there. From a user interface perspective the Pebble watch and Moto 360 especially are beautiful, well-crafted and smooth interfaces. Apple are not entering new territory nor are they introducing any ideas or improvements into the space (besides the physical appearance).
Lets not pretend that there aren't as equally good, if not, better smart watches out there. They might not have had the same amount of design and research put into them, but I think there is such a thing as over-engineering something. I am pretty happy with my Pebble watch, the battery life is great and so too, is the battery life.
I am by no means an expert, but I like nice watches and to me the Apple Watch will never match the build quality, feel and longevity of a nice traditional mechanical watch even if it is only from a battery life perspective.
He's definitely a shill. Imagine a couple years ago, when Gruber couldn't even bring himself to pretend to provide critical analysis of Apple products. I used to just flag daringfireball posts as soon as I saw them. These days there's at least information content in his posts so I usually leave them alone.
But Gruber also spends an extraordinary amount of time these days using framing devices to either draw false comparisons that put Apple on top, or minimize the cases where Apple clearly screwed up. You could easily cut this review down by 2/3rds just by getting rid of the superfluous framing he uses throughout and not lose any information at all. The amount of hemming and hawing in this makes me think that he's not really buying it this time. It's not a crap device, but it's not clear what it's good for and it's not strictly better than just a normal watch. He didn't really effuse about Apple's stated use-cases for the device. His hope throughout is that maybe it'll appeal to non-watch wearers?
You'll also notice that he carefully doesn't compare it to all the other smart watches in the growing segment. He pretends like it only is comparable to regular watches, like the Apple watch was introduced into a market vacuum, cut from whole cloth (Apple's magical genius cloth), and completely uninformed by the three decades of smartwatch development.
lucky for gruber, Apple has released an awful lot of good products recently. iPhones have stupid customer satisfaction numbers. They aren't the most valuable company in the world by a mile because everything they release is crap.
Obviously Gruber is a big fan of Apple, but your criticism of him is a bit harsh. I assume he didn't spend a lot of time comparing it to Android wear because he hasn't spent a ton of time using Android wear.
I'm a little afraid of the first gen bugs, and some of the reviews I read today weren't completely sold, but pretty much every single one that I read said it was far and away the best smartwatch they've used, even if they still weren't completely sold and gave it meh reviews overall.
Gruber is terrible. I'm completely unapologetic about my opinion about him. He's everything that's wrong in tech news today. He's been able to carve a niche for himself preaching to a choir of folks with large disposable incomes by providing unashamed regurgitation of Apple's marketing bullet points so that people can reinforce their beliefs by having another bullet point that they made the right technology purchase. If his recent posts continued his tradition of information free praise, I'd still be flagging them off the front-page. I can think of very few tech writers as well known as him who offer less useful information than he does on any topic.
You are right, Apple didn't get where they are by producing crap, but they also didn't get where they are without getting it wrong sometimes, and it's really hard to find cases where Gruber recognizes that without bookending and drowning issues in a thousand words of qualification. Sure, he gets to point to the sentence among dozens where he mentions something that might, just maybe, be wrong, but the context he places issues in minimize and excuse these issues away.
The question he needs to be answering is not if the Apple Watch is the best smartwatch on the market, I don't doubt that it is. But it's, "are smartwatches a good idea?". He's not capable of answering that question honestly because to Gruber, anything Apple does is a good idea, Apple is doing a smartwatch, therefore it must be a good idea. He waits till Apple tells him how to think, then he write a post recycling and expanding on their marketing direction -- and he does this completely unironically.
If you read his review with a critical eye it boils down to this:
- It's a terrible watch (there's about 1,000 words trying to weazel around what a shitty watch it is)
- The industrial design is nice
- He hasn't found much value in the expressed use-cases it shipped with
- If you don't wear watches, you'll probably be more interested in it than people who already wear watches
There, almost 6,000 words boiled down to the 4 main bullet points, and only the hardware received any real praise. I think it's interesting that these 4 bullet points are echoed in most of the early reviews I've seen. The problems he mentions, then tries to bury, are expanded on in more honest reviews.
They aren't really problems with Apple's version of the Smart Watch per se, but with the idea of Smart Watches as a class of product. It's really hard to come up with a Smart Watch that makes any kind of sense, and it's pretty clear that Apple hasn't been able to justify it (and if Apple can't crack that nut who can?)
Will Apple sell millions of them? Yeah probably. I wonder how many will be to people who made their purchase decision after reading daringfireball?
Totally baffled by your mindset. Why is Gruber terrible and everything wrong with tech news today? Compared to Engadget et al he seems reasonably fair and balanced. Please point me towards something he's written that's objectively biased or bad.
Everything he writes is objectively biased. Have you ever read anything he's ever written?
Tech news is already so full of bought promotions pretending to be articles, fan boyism and subjective "analysis" it really doesn't need more. It's already enough of a burden on the reader to try to figure out if a review of some new product is being truthful or was paid for by an ad on page 23, or if the editor has some platform to push or if the writer wants to keep using the sources he's developed with some cool company.
Technology media is honestly pretty terrible in general, and very few of the faults of the arena don't apply to Gruber. Except he's also a really great writer. He's smart. So it's not quite out in the open like it might be on a lesser site like a CNET review. But he has lots and lots of tools that he employs to push his agenda.
Here's some literary devices that Gruber employs in almost everything he writes:
- Minimizing or Maximizing Framing devices (when Apple is right, he makes them smarter than Gods, when they're dead wrong he makes it seem like a reasonable alternative that's still better than anybody else)
- False comparisons (Apple's apple's to everybody else's inferior oranges)
- Jumbling of facts (often used to lead into a Min/Max Framing segment)
- Information-like sentences (lots of facts and figures, but no actual information)
- Omissions (easy to excuse)
- Emotionally driven excuses (Apple did it this way to pull at your heart strings)
- Setting then ignoring a thesis ("Here's why Apple's is amazing", then uses the above devices to ignore that thesis when Apple doesn't live up to it)
He also likes to drop little bomb posts questioning the veracity and fairness of the rest of the media, which subtly informs the reader that he's not like those journalists.
Here's his recent tech-news post history (I won't comment on his non-tech posts):
- ‘FINALLY’ OF THE WEEK - where he criticizes the tech media for using the word finally in the following sentence "Cheap USB-C Cables for Your MacBook Are Finally Here"
- TRIPADVISOR, BOOKING.COM REVIEWS START APPEARING IN APPLE MAPS - where he points out that Apple is a better company than Google because its Business Development team secured data sharing partnerships for Apple Maps
- HIGHBALL 1.0 - where he pumps up a cocktail recipe app. He drops the not-so-subtle-jab at Google line "They might have actually found a good use for QR codes."
- MORE ON APPLE’S CONSTRUCTION HIRING - where he brings doubt into Apple's probably illegal hiring policy for construction on their new campus w/r to convicted felons. Of course the doubt he sews is framed that everybody else must be doing it so Apple discriminating against them is okay.
- ROLLING STONE UVA RAPE STORY RETRACTION: A CASE STUDY IN FAILED JOURNALISM - again a piece that subtly brings up the failings of everybody else who's not him in providing trusted and Fox News style fair & balanced coverage of things
- REPORT CLAIMS SAMSUNG PAID HUNDREDS OF ‘FANS’ TO ATTEND GALAXY S6 LAUNCH IN CHINA - an uncritical regurgitation of a quote from the WantChinaTimes, with an update of a quote from Samsung denying it. No insight or discussion from Gruber, no sources checked.
- ‘APPARENTLY NONE OF YOU GUYS REALIZE HOW BAD OF AN IDEA A TOUCHSCREEN IS ON A PHONE’ - where he quotes somebody else quoting somebody from 2007 comparing a Samsung flip phone to an iPhone
- FELONS BARRED FROM CONSTRUCTING APPLE’S CAMPUS - another post from him on this subject, this time excusing Apple because background checks on employees of the richest most profitable company in history must be "expensive"
- Reach for the Sky, Pando - where he criticizes the SF Chronicle for breaking the story on Apple's discriminatory hiring process. He also takes time to defend Steve Job's notoriously abrasive personality and the illegal hiring practices Apple has taken part in previously w/r to tech workers.
- JOANNA STERN’S GALAXY S6 REVIEW - where his only point is are that the S6 is an iPhone lookalike and Samsung's software sucks, and they aren't up to competing against Apple's products. Of course he completely omits that the article claims the S6, in balance, is a match to the iPhone 6. If your information source was Gruber's take on the review, you'd think the S6 was a cheap unusable knock-off. But the review doesn't claim that at all. He carefully omits in his quotes where the review praises the S6 for a better camera set, better battery life, faster recharging, bigger storage, cheaper price and a better screen.
'He drops the not-so-subtle-jab at Google line "They might have actually found a good use for QR codes."' - Huh? What do QR codes have to do with Google? It did go through a brief period of being somewhat keen on them before quietly forgetting about them, but it's not like they invented it or anything.
So, from reading his review you came away with the impression that he thinks it's terrible. He mentioned lots of bad things about it. Yet you hate him for only praising it. That doesn't really follow. Perhaps you should rethink your position.
I hate him because he spends approximately 5,500 words of this 6,000 word review framing how awesome Apple and all their wonderful products are and how terrible the rest of the world is for not being Apple before giving a tiny set of heavily qualified problems.
With Gruber the answer to the question "did Gruber like this Apple product?" is one of two answers
1) Yes, with a 2-5 sentence blog post
2) Yes, with a multi-thousand line blog post he buries issues inside of
And to "did Gruber like this non-Apple product?" the answer is
1) No, it obviously sucks
2) No, because Apple does whatever it is better
These days he at least provides some useful information in his long form posts, so I don't autoflag them like I used to. But he's often virtually information free.
So someone who makes four main points in his review - two negative ones and one that's at least highly ambivalent - is preaching to the chore and just regurgitating Apple marketing bullet points. Got it.
No, somebody who buries those 2 negative points in 6,000 words of rhetorical framing devices is. Have you ever even seen the content of Daringfireball?
I totally agree to this. Gruber just praises everything that Apple does and knocks out other ideas. I see bias in his analysis of other ideas and products. Works for him because so many people want to hear exactly that.
Do you have evidence of Apple secretly paying Gruber for apparent opinions? Because that's what that word means; it's a form of marketing fraud.
> You'll also notice that he carefully doesn't compare it to all the other smart watches in the growing segment.
The market right now can be divided into two sections; things like the Pebble, and watches-with-apps (Apple Watch, Android Wear). For the latter category, which way you go entirely depends on what sort of phone you have, so a comparison arguably isn't particularly worthwhile.
Shill means "an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others"
Being unable to accept or say negative things about your accomplice and only provide those things about your accomplice's competitors are all the marks of a shill. Gruber exists only to entice and encourage others to want, desire and do all things Apple. His post history is demonstration of this.
It doesn't mean he's paid directly by Apple, but benefits from Apple's success. He's not a "tech blogger" he's an "Apple blogger". If he was being paid directly he'd be an astroturfer. I'm using "shill" very precisely here.
> The market right now can be divided into two sections; things like the Pebble, and watches-with-apps (Apple Watch, Android Wear). For the latter category, which way you go entirely depends on what sort of phone you have,
But he does compare it. This article is not an analysis-in-a-isolation. He explicitly compares the Apple Watch to regular timepieces, and in such a way that it generally compares favorably to those devices -- then he spends a few paragraphs excusing why it's not that great of a watch.
He doesn't compare it against other smart watches or other fitness tracking devices at all, but both are market segments the Apple Watch explicitly markets towards, which he spends almost 1/6th of this essay talking about. It's not that I think the Apple Watch would fare poorly against those other devices, but that it brings up uncomfortable questions about the entire segment that Gruber isn't prepared to talk about because Apple hasn't told him how to talk about it (either directly or through their marketing and advertising channels).
> so a comparison arguably isn't particularly worthwhile.
Why wouldn't a comparison be worthwhile? They all have significant product overlap, the Venn diagram of all smart watches is almost a circle, while the Venn diagram with traditional watches is not. Yet he chose to spend 1,000 words on the regular timepiece comparison, and zero words on the market segment. I'm positing that this wasn't an accident. It's an easy comparison to make against the rest of the offerings in the segment.
- The battery life is better than just about any Android Watch on the market
- It's not as good as a Pebble
- But the screen and functionality is better than a Pebble, and most of the Android watches on the market
- The styling of the Apple watch appears to be better than other competing watches on the market
- But this comes at a cost, it's among the most expensive devices in the segment
- You also have to be in the Apple ecosystem to use it
There, that's easy. My mini-comparison review even makes the Apple Watch look like a good choice. It's because that's what a critical analysis looks like. You don't set the outcome of your review then fudge in 6,000 words to support it.
By not doing that there's only a few possibilities:
- In all the years that smart watches have been out, he's never bothered to even check one out, showing an extreme lack of interest in the segment, he's only now interested at all because Apple has put one out. This is useless.
- Now that he has an Apple watch, he could go to the his local electronics store and just use the novel technique of looking at a few competitors and give some impressions. He didn't and this is also useless.
- He did do the above, and doesn't want to write about it, because several years into the market now, the competitor's offerings are more mature and compare better to the Apple Watch. By not writing about this issue, he's shilling and is useless.
- He already decided to write a positive review about the Watch. This is preordained, since he always says positive things about Apple products. He acts like the rest of the market doesn't exist or is irrelevant, but $20 Casio watches are. This is useless.
The only useful thing he could have done, at minimum is say "I'll be doing a comparison test against the rest of the market in an upcoming article", at a maximum is use some of his 6,000 words to compare against the entire rest of the market.
But he doesn't and all we know is that Gruber wants you to think he thinks the Apple Watch is good.
>He's definitely a shill. Imagine a couple years ago, when Gruber couldn't even bring himself to pretend to provide critical analysis of Apple products.
Ironically, Gruber's review is perhaps one of the more critical one that I've read so far of the Apple watch. My takeaway was that he didn't think, as a life-time watch wearer, that it wasn't as good a time piece as any of his watches, that the battery life didn't meet almost any watch in existence, that the delay in looking at the watch was annoying. Gruber care's about design, quality, and fit/finish, and from that perspective, the Apple watch is significantly more advanced than watches like the Pebble, and so he spent a bit of time talking about it.
Here's the thing - John Gruber is a partisan (to quote Siracusa), but so is his audience - so it's entirely reasonable that he would offer a partisan's analysis of the Apple Watch.
Even so - I thought he was more critical of the watch than most other Apple products - and perhaps it's because he does wear a watch, and was trying to decide whether he was interested in wearing an Apple watch instead.
His conclusion seemed to be that it wasn't clear he would.
Put another way, of the four reviews that I've read so far (NYT, Recode, The Verge) - Gruber's was the first one that made me think that buying a version 1 Apple Watch wasn't such a great idea - simply because it was a partisans review that was clearly calling out disclaimers.
> Given his history with the company, I feel like with Gruber we never ever get the real deal.
You should try listening to his podcast(s). Just like pre-Functional-High-Ground-Marco, I find Gruber to be a lot more realistic and balanced when he is talking, not writing.
This is the same Marco Arment who just came out and wrote an essay basically saying the iPhone 6/6+ is poorly designed, and he's hoping Apple will stop with the "thinner, thinner, thinner but sucky experience for the user" design process?
Yep. I don't think he has been writing essays as these before his infamous blog post[1]. He has, however, been criticising Apple for a while (forever?) on podcasts. On a recent episode of ATP.fm, he even mentioned that the blog post did not come out of nowhere, but was simply a write-up of things that have been discussed on the podcast for a long time.
Yeah - I used to feel like Arment was in he bag for Apple (and I say this as a hardcore Mac guy, though I use Android phones), but these days I find myself respecting his take a lot more. Gruber...no. He is a very good writer who uses that skill effectively, but he's so far in the bag it's not even funny.
I think Arment has realized he really has nothing to lose, and everything to gain by just speaking the truth. A number of times he's been hosed by Apple sitting on an patch release for overcast, he's not invited to any events, and doesn't get embargoed gear. As a result, telling the truth improves his braaannnd (read that with a zombie like braiiiinnsss sound), with very little downside.
I wouldn't be surprised if we'll continue to see more honesty from Arment - I think he's realized that it only did Siracusa good. Gruber, who I love his reading, is in a tough position - he has to tow the company line in order to get the invites and gear from Apple, which are somewhat important to DF.
I agree with this. I've heard him give talks on a few occasions and found them far superior in content and delivery than his writing. Which is hard to believe because Gruber honestly is a very good writer.
What new ideas and improvements would those be? Honest and non-argumentative question. I mean of course besides the beautiful engineering (I like the appearance of the Apple Watch) and digital crown.
Well, the heart-rate monitor for starters (and I suspect, based on the optical design of it, that it was built with an eye toward measuring blood oxygen content in future incarnations). Extant activity trackers on the market don't really do it for me from a value standpoint--but I do own a Garmin cycling GPS. The Apple Watch also has enough computational oompf that they should be able to implement Suunto's Firstbeat HR algorithm for better calorie burn estimation (this is all speculative, of course).
Strava is a killer app for those who already have an iPhone: Watch Sport costs about what I would pay to upgrade to the latest Garmin Edge, plus it tracks non-exercise activity (which is something I like but am not willing to pay for by itself). On top of all that, Apple Watch comes with maps (and turn-by-turn directions) for free (something you pay for out the nose with Garmin).
Then there's the mobile payments piece. Taking out your phone is fairly low-friction, but double-tapping a button on your watch and holding it up to a terminal is even less so, plus the idea that I could go out with just my phone and watch is pretty appealing.
Most Android Wear watches also have an optical heart rate monitor, and they all do turn-by-turn.
Fair point on the payments, though. I think only the Sony watch has NFC, and I haven't heard when/if that will be actually supported by the OS for payments.
I'm not a fan of what I've seen of Apple Watch, or wearables in general, but the UI innovations that Apple has made for a tiny screen feel clear to me. The manner of navigating apps with the crown (and using a crown to navigate, period), is the one that jumps out the most. The casual sketching and heartbeat communication modes are a bit contrived, but novel. Their approach to haptic alerts sounds distinctive and thought-through.
To be clear, I am not a believer in this product, and I really like Apple stuff. But if you're not seeing ideas and improvements, I think a closer look is warranted.
Taptic feedback. Diversity in product design. Digital touch. Architecture of Apps.
Those are all unique to Apple's Watch as is pretty much every aspect of the look & feel. You can argue different watches having the same features but Apple's implementation will always be quite unique.
I don't know if diversity in product design is valid for the watch. There was a UI side-by-side with Android Watch UI products at the reveal of the Apple Watch, and they're pretty much identical (save for the top-level app view)
Put aside the UI. There are a couple different case sizes, a few different case materials, a lot of different wrist bands, some special editions, etc. All combined, there are a lot of choices when it comes to the physical appearance of the Apple Watch on your wrist, spanning a huge price range. The Motorola watch comes closest on this score, but it's still a distant second.
Moving the space app centric is a pretty big deal for me at least. Even if it requires teathering to a phone, and with the performance issues, it's a big step above the notification centric nature of Android Wear. Plus the ability to run on wifi and stay connected with the phone.
Not saying the device isn't worthy of most of its criticisms, but let's not pretend this is and iOS-ified version of Android Wear.
> Also, though it sounds trivial, I enjoy the perfect 60 FPS smoothness of Apple Watch’s second hand — a smoothness no mechanical watch could ever match.
Based on a culmination of reviews and early preview articles I have read, videos and basically everything I have read about the Apple Watch this statement seems kind of ironic. The second hand might be smooth, but the very real performance issues people have encountered with the watch mean the rest of the Apple Watch experience is anything but smooth. What's the point of a smooth second hand if the rest of the experience is somewhat crippled and unusable?
I like the look of the Apple Watch and the very idea of it, but to an extent. It feels as though articles like Gruber's here are talking with reckless abandon, from the perspective that existing solutions aren't out there. From a user interface perspective the Pebble watch and Moto 360 especially are beautiful, well-crafted and smooth interfaces. Apple are not entering new territory nor are they introducing any ideas or improvements into the space (besides the physical appearance).
Lets not pretend that there aren't as equally good, if not, better smart watches out there. They might not have had the same amount of design and research put into them, but I think there is such a thing as over-engineering something. I am pretty happy with my Pebble watch, the battery life is great and so too, is the battery life.
I am by no means an expert, but I like nice watches and to me the Apple Watch will never match the build quality, feel and longevity of a nice traditional mechanical watch even if it is only from a battery life perspective.