The offset is not positive when you factor in the externalities that go into esc...

dalyons · 2026-01-16T18:50:49 1768589449

Wrong, unless you can prove otherwise. EVs cost a little more emissions to build but are widely regarded as breaking even with a gas car in 1-2years after production. And even shorter as grids decarbonize.

golem14 · 2026-01-16T18:37:07 1768588627

I would love to see a thorough, agreed upon study comparing ICEs and EVs. If you have hard data (say, from a reputable journal, not just the news), please post.

collinmcnulty · 2026-01-16T19:51:05 1768593065

https://theicct.org/publication/electric-cars-life-cycle-ana...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S09596... (paywall)

https://about.bnef.com/insights/clean-transport/no-doubt-abo... is a writeup of https://www.bnef.com/insights/33557 which is paywalled.

golem14 · 2026-01-19T03:52:23 1768794743

the first and last link seem less trustworthy as they seem to be affiliated with industry orgs that benefit from EVs.

But link #2 seems solid, and a related search on Google Scholar points at a lot of interesting papers.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=related:B47EWn6YcDUJ:sc...

I looked at a few, and the overall consensus seems to be that at least EVs are not worse than ICEVs (and I suppose EVs will get efficient faster than ICEVs(.

Thanks!