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Dude.

Back in 2014 when briar or something similar came up, we found the app.needed to signed in "online" first then it could be used offline.

There were apps used in 2019 but it wasnt enough.

The government "banned" 14 appps including element "because use by terrorists" meant anyone using element after the ban got a loud knock on the door by the stazi with 100-300 personnel, fully ready to engage in battle.

Have seen horror stories.

They used isp data to locate homes where element was used and then staked them out and made a big show of attacking at night.

Then the usual. Phones are confiscated and literal spyware installed.





That was Bridgefy that required initial online access to setup. Briar doesn't and never has.

Traceability of Briar users, if not the actual content, is certainly potentially worse than something like what Bitchat claims (don't use Bitchat it's provably not secure or private at all) with it's traffic obfuscation and multihop. However, the lack of multihop also makes it less promiscuous, so someone would have to be monitoring when you came in contact with the transfer source or destination, unlike multihop that just broadcasts to anyone so they can hopefully relay it.


that's why its difficult to trust these apps? i've been out of the game for years and i would rather be on the fence about the whole thing.

the problem i saw back in 2019 was adoption. it just happened suddenly and the scaremongering done by the government was top notch. literally any anti-government tweet or post was "deemed social media misuse", how dare you question the might of the great nation.

https://thewire.in/rights/kashmir-fir-vpn-social-media this is fresh "misuse".

what i am saying is, in that heated environment, no one wanted to be the one holding the short straw so this tech did not play out, simply out of personal safety.

few years ago we had clubhouse and https://kashmirlife.net/sleuths-silently-listen-to-clubhouse...

which someone like me knew "out of habit" so i didn't even try the app but people did and paid the price.


Wait really? Was this only in Kashmir? I've had Element on my laptop for years.


yep. only restricted in kashmir

Why are people downvoting him? He's right (even though if his dream for "Azad" Kashmir came true, it would mean my family is Kishtwar would probably have to leave for Punjab or Himachal with only the clothes on their backs, but the current status quo means he might be detained indefinetly as well) - the DoT, Home Ministry, and State STFs have been rolling out fusions centers since the mid-2010s [0].

The rules are much more strict/draconian in JK [1]

[0] - https://www.mha.gov.in/sites/default/files/AdvNATGRIDCOT_151...

[1] - https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/centre-blocks-14-mobi...





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