Police don't deserve "respect" for being police. They don't get to shoot or brutalize people for "disrespecting" them. They are servants of the people and should humble themselves appropriately and act with that consciousness, not act as though they are noble beings superior to other men, not beholden to earthly law.
Why should civilians respect federal LEOs when they detain citizens, who have committed no crimes, under the pretense of immigration enforcement? Why does the lack of respect for LEOs justify beating non-violent civilians, smashing into their cars, randomly shooting pepper spray and tear gas, and raiding homes without a warrant?
The perspective that is constantly missing from these one-sided ICE threads on HN and Reddit (but often exposed in videos after the fact): What are the civilians/protesters actually doing in these situations?
This kind of "I'm a sovereign citizen, you can't touch me" behavior used to be rightfully belittled by the same crowd only a few years ago.
It’s insane. I watch the actual source videos from as many angles as I can find, and I’ve not once seen this false narrative of unreasonable retribution by LEO’s. Not once when I find the full context.
Same. I'm not american, but I see the same thing from the same crowd in my home country. They tend to think it's perfectly ok to lie if it's for a good thing (as defined by themselves).
> I’ve not once seen this false narrative of unreasonable retribution
Idk man that’s pretty crazy. Sounds kind of like you have no concerns about living in an authoritarian hellhole where state police have absolute authority and are only accountable to the highest executive power. Maybe read some books about how that usually ends up for most people. We’re out here ringing alarm bells so more books don’t have to be written.
Yeah, all those sovereign citizens going to their... doctors appointments? Really? This is how far we're shoving the boot up our ass these days? Okay.
Look. We have so much evidence of misconduct by ICE that the only reasonable thing to do is just assume there is misconduct. There's no Le Enlightened Centrist take here - these people act like gangs, and have zero respect for Americans citizens or their property.
A lot of people are looking for fights. In saner countries the police are trained to deescalate situations like that, not go around picking fights with anyone who’s looking for one.
