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Show me actual stats on the safety vs human drivers and I may actually care. The lack of them makes me think that it isn't actually that dangerous compared to humans.


Agreed. Unfortunately, Tesla’s quite cagey with publishing safety data, far as I can tell. For what it’s worth, both HW4 and HW3 with FSD 13.x and 12.x have put me in dangerous situations enough times to where I no longer trust it.


I would like to see that data too, but seeing how unhinged the media reaction is when even one person is killed in a Tesla (or even when a cat was killed by a Waymo) I do understand why they don't release it.




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