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Hawaii, near southern point, has a road with one side abandoned windmills. At least mines in USA have a reclamation plan and bond to pay for it.

https://advertiser-tribune.com/news/191061/trip-to-hawaii-re...



Oh look. It's a lie. Article dated 2019 about something that had been decomissined for 7 years (and were not even abandoned to begin with but in the process of being replaced and then investigated for reopening).

https://www.wind-watch.org/news/2012/03/31/turbines-come-dow...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY-bxSO82qI


I drove there down a southern road in 2010 past a long row of rusting windmills. I have not been back since then, so I don't know the current condition. I saw many near the southern-most point.

What are your thoughts on a site reclamation bond before construction?


As long as it's indexed off actual decomissioning costs somehow and not just a wind-tax (and similarly doesn't massively underfund like the nuclear decommisioning levy) I think it's an excellent idea. We shouldn't let utilities get away with shit just because it's not fossil fuels.


I don't know details about nuclear decommisioning. In my experience, State permitting standards for decommissioning bonds have been implemented as part of mine permitting and oil and gas permitting. I would like to see more people getting their States to be proactive on all of this: mines wells tires PV iDevices.

The laboratory of States will find and create solutions, without a one-size-fits-none federal mandate.


For small scale PV, the cost is so negligible and the benefit of uniformity is so large that everyone having the same rule is by far the best solution. Just adopting WEEE verbatim would solve it entirely and even if it is flawed, the problem is so simple the harms will be smaller than non-standardization and loopholes.

No reason there can't be a per region method for the wind as long as it doesn't make them vulnerable to more powerful, hostile non-state entities (mining, tech companies, and fossil fuels is a fairly big precedent). The wind turbine industry is still fairly chaotic, but will likely become as centralised and powerful.




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