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> Seems the value isn't quite there

Looks like you are not in the target audience for those machines. The value is absolutely there if you need the CPU to do as much work as possible. As someone who spends a big chunk of my day compiling, a speedup by x2 means I need to wait half as long. And it won’t even toast my lap. The 1K nits screen means I can finally work outside in summer. This is _exactly_ the machine the disgruntled ecosystem has been calling for, for at least 5 years now.

While the 5nm process will certainly yield good AMD CPUs, the iOS/macOS optimizations built into Apple Silicon are hard to match for general-purpose CPUs. And the GPU story looks bad for Nvidia - the Max 32 core GPU uses half the power envelope for almost the same output as the mobile RTX 3080. And afaik the 3080 is already produced on 7nm, so there will be some engineering to do to get there.



People are comparing Apples and Oranges. (Ha)

Look at a Mobile Workstation class laptop and those are easily 5k+. Those are the ones to compare with the high end MBPs. Not your USD 1500 Windows laptops.


I've RTX discrete card maxed out laptop with 64GB RAM, dual SSDs, 4K OLED and what not. It was priced at around $4500. The battery life is about 2 hours and fan runs so fast that it almost sounds like a siren. I'd to do hours worth to tweaking to force run its CPU and other components run at very low speed to make it usable in untethered mode. It needs so much power when charging that plugs in airplane charger refuse to charge it.


How did you even open the lid more than 60 degrees?


And mobile workstations will keep you tethered to the wall and you can only tote them in an XL backpack.


FYI the 1k nits is only for HDR content. I believe peak brightness in the sun is capped at 500 nits for SDR content.




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