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So, Samsung "Bada" devices have outsold Windows Phone 7 devices. I'd never even heard of Bada before reading this article. Windows Phone 7 is even worse off than I'd realized (and I already thought it was a market failure).


Android was also a non-factor for it's first year in the marketplace. People that are writing WP7 off based on 2-3 quarters are crazy.

And no I'm not saying it will grow like Android did from Q4 09 to Q4 10 but they'll be probably be pushing RIM for 3rd place this time next year.


Its not that surprising. Bada is very popular in Malaysia and Indonesia, and is more of a feature phone OS then a smartphone OS.

Its really in competition with Symbian.

The biggest issue with it though is that the SDK is C++ only which is going lock out a lot of developers.


You would think so, but I guess MS are trying to play a long game. I was talking to some friends who work in corp./enterprise IT the other day; they were saying that the sysadmins and CIO's that they talk to are all very excited to be able to roll out WP7 within companies that are already using MS infrastructure as an iPhone/BB replacement.

MS may be late to the consumer party, but they could still take the board room - or if the execs won't give up their iPhones, the rest of the company.


I think this is what everyone is forgetting. MS can attack the cooperate market. Its not sexy but there is a truckload of cash there.

I always thought it would be a good move for Oracle to buy RIM. They could then offer an end to end solution for businesses, from hardware (sun), OS (solaris), database (oracle), language (java), all the middle ware software through to the phone. I could see a lot of big companies jumping on that platform in a heartbeat.


I haven't forgotten it. I've actually mentioned it several times in HN threads on the subject, suggesting that the only sane way forward for Microsoft in the mobile market is to hit the enterprise market extremely hard and take the place of Blackberry (which has only just recently lost the crown in the business world).

Apple has never known how to provide for the enterprise effectively. Hell, it was several months before iPhones could be locked, for crying out loud, which is one of the big reasons adoption was extremely slow in the enterprise...at least at the companies I know who allowed employees to choose their own phone, but disallowed iPhone (Google among them). And, Google and the Android makers haven't really tried to tackle the enterprise market in any notable way, though the openness of the platform allows bigger businesses to do what they need to do, regardless of vendor support...which is pretty powerful, too.

If IT guys are choosing, I'd be surprised if they don't choose Open Source stuff more often than something from MS. But, I have biases from my own days as an IT guy.


Alas IT guys rarely get to make the choice in any large organization.

To be honest if I was in that situation, I would want an end to end solution too. Im not aware of any end to end corporate solution for android phones out there actually. Perhaps that's a business opportunity for someone with enough capitol to start it.




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