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Cool slippery slope bro!

Margarine =/= butter. These are words with very specific meanings that everyone has agreed on.

Burger =/= beef. "Burger" is, generally, a style of sandwich. "Turkey Burger" is fine. "Pork burger" is fine. The assumption is that, unmodified, it means that it contains beef. However, everyone in the US understand that a "black bean burger" doesn't contain beef and instead contains black beans.

Both sides of this fight are just "corporate interests randomly assigning words to foods". The beef industry wants "purity" and the veggie industry wants "common sense". Let's not pretend this is actually about the consumer being protected, because isn't. It's about how to market products.



Burger is ground meat not a sandwich?

"Veggie" in "Veggie Burger" is what exactly? Tell us in detail please.


I make mine, at home not in a sinister lab, from black beans, garlic, onion, bell peppers, bread crumbs, egg, salt, pepper, cumin and olive oil.

I take the onions, peppers and garlic and go put them in a food processors to chop them (oh god, the processing!) to approximately fine dice because I'm usually making them in bulk and don't feel like cutting by hand. If you prefer a thicker cut to the veggies, go ahead and cut with a knife.

I then take that out, and put half of the black beans into the food processor (ahh, terror, horror!) until they reach a paste consistency. I mix the other veggies, spices and remaining black beans into this. I then eggs to bind and bread crumbs as needed to get it to hold shape. If I take it too far, I'll add some olive oil to loosen things up.

These aren't super great on a grill, and I prefer to pan sear or cook them on a griddle (which I find to be the best to get some really great maillard reactions going on for flavor) and top with a slice of cheese and arugula and put it on a bun.

My point is, "burger" is a style preparation, not a specific thing. "Soup" "Sandwich" "Taco" "Breakfast". These are vague shapes, not specific D.S.O.P terms. So is "burger", at least in the US currently.

I'm a former chef my dude. I'm invested and have a lot of opinions on food. You want to fight on the behalf of the beef lobby, that's fine. But this is all about protecting corporate interests from other competing corporate interests. This isn't about protecting consumers. It's Bad Actors fighting Bad Actors.

Don't even get me started on that "organic" nonsense...


You make that at home, sounds great. (and of course your friends and family trust you and know you wouldn't slip garbage onto their plate)

So you know all this work we do to remove processed foods by making it at home right?

Do you think this is what is in these industrial pastes at the store? In a box on the freezer isle?

Taco Bell is allowed to call their product meat and thats NOT ok with me.

Vegetarians jumping on the corporate lying train with Taco Bell is a terrible terrible idea.




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